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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reggie Perrin Reply with quote

Anyone gonna be watching the new Reggie Perrin series with Martin Clunes?

If you don't know what I'm talking about check here:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6092986.ece

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try it, but I'm prepared for disappointment.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gods, the very idea fills me with dread - why do people insist on re-hashing what is already perfect? I love Reggie Perrin and he will always be Leonard Rossiter to me.

And now a hippo has appeared in my mind's eye - sorrowfully shaking his head! Grin
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I kinda agree with both of you there, I reckon it's a case of what you know first.

I'm currently reading to 1st Reggie novel, in preperation for the new series, apparently it's going to bring in aspects that the 70's series didn't.

I'd not read it before, so Reggie has always been Rossiter to me too. The character in the book is a little different & the events (whilst sometimes the same) are often different too (stuff that wasn't in the book that was in the TV show & stuff that was in the book that wasn't in the show).

Consiquently I find myself thinking the book isn't as good as the old series. Though I'm sure if I'd read the book first I'd feel differently.

I wonder what new viewers (who've neither read the book nor seen the old series) will make of it, compared to us lot who know Reggie as Leonard Rossiter...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again I was never keen on it before (and sure Deep is not that old!!)

Like Loz though I am not a fan of remakes like this and cannot think of one where the remake is better or even close to the original (including films in that statement). Sure there must be one!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this one then?

In 1978 there was a film of Lord of the Rings.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the 1978 version of Lordof The Rings (also known as "That Ralph Bakshi Sham") does not trully count as the project was never completed. Many people would say this is a good thing. Mostly cos it was shite.

The arguement could be used that A Fistfull of Dollars is just as good as Yojimbo the Akira Kurosawa film that Fistful is based upon. That I find a tricky one. Essentially theyre the same film. Almost shot for shot. Just one a samurai film one a western.

However for me the most amusing thing in the world is to ask someone who loves films to name 10 "GOOD" remakes in 5 miuntes. Try it and watch em squirm when you dissallow The Italian Job, Planet of The Apes, The Day The Earth Stood Still and a host of other inferrior products
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battlestar Galactica anyone? The remake shat on the original from a great height (IMHO).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and sure Deep is not that old

Old enough

& actually I used to enjoy watching the Bakshi LotR film.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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& actually I used to enjoy watching the Bakshi LotR film.


Yeah, likewise. I wish he'd finished it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would love to see it finished, shame no one with cash seems interested.

I always thought it got a bum deal. It's far from perfect but has some great stuff in.

I seem to recall the way the Nazgul hack at the beds in the Prancing Pony was not in the books, but Peter Jacksons film copies the same scene from the cartoon one.

The Rotoscaped people were good, I didn't know how that was done at the time. Golum was great too

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh! wrote:
Battlestar Galactica anyone? The remake shat on the original from a great height (IMHO).


OK in my humble opinion the remake of Battlestar Galactica is in fact BETTER than the original. Mostly cos the original was a poor rip off of other better shows and movies. It relied on stock footage every bloody week and it was frankly just shite.

The new one however has won critical acclaim, a hugely loyal veiwer following and has Tricia Helfer in it. (wipes rabid foam from chin). I think the writing is better (mostly cos Glen (Grand) Larsony... I mean Larson is not involved in writing it. Though is a consultant) and it has been pointed out by a certain mr Harlan Ellison that Ron Moore and David Eike, and I quote here, "taken one of the WORST science fiction show on TV and turned it into one the BEST"
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reddragon70 wrote:
However for me the most amusing thing in the world is to ask someone who loves films to name 10 "GOOD" remakes in 5 miuntes. Try it and watch em squirm when you dissallow The Italian Job, Planet of The Apes, The Day The Earth Stood Still and a host of other inferrior products


An interesting question! With the help of Wiki, here is a list of 9 good remakes (in my opinion);

1. Ben Hur
2. Charlie and the chocolate factory
3. Chicago
4. Dangerous liasons
5. Romeo and Juliet
6. Magnificent seven
7. Scarface
8. Scent of a woman
9. True lies

However for me one of the most amusing thing in the world is to ask an American to name the only US state that ends in the letter "K". Try it and watch em squirm. Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd argue that a couple of those remakes weren't so much remakes as new takes from the original source material - especially in the case of Charlie, which is far more book accurate. And pick an interpretation of Shakespeare, there's plenty about.

> dissallow The Italian Job, Planet of The Apes etc

I'd be tempted to claim that anyone citing those as "good" in the first place doesn't really love films.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reddragon70 wrote:
Timmeh! wrote:
Battlestar Galactica anyone? The remake shat on the original from a great height (IMHO).


OK in my humble opinion the remake of Battlestar Galactica is in fact BETTER than the original.


I thought that was what I said. Confused

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